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Post by 95blitz on Jun 17, 2012 18:36:00 GMT -6
So I have done a grand total of 2 auto X's (was hooked the first time) and now it's time build a car. I like running the Boss but don't want to mess it up in anyway. So enter the 94 Mustang I was building to drag race. As it sets right now I have to brace the aftermarket K member some and turn the V arms in to A arms. I have the complete drag race rear suspension, that will be changed to a torque arm, panhard bar setup. Well here's a few pictures to start with. The K and V arms that need moding How it looks now. And the powerplant a 351W stock crank rods pistions, 5.0HO cam, GT40P heads off of an 97 Explorer, and Chinese rip off intake. I'm not looking for a lot of power just 300 or so.
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Post by jessew on Jun 19, 2012 7:52:17 GMT -6
nice. i'd love to take a 2005 and gut it to run in CP, but the griggs SLA conversion is really expensive, and the car would have to be in pretty sad shape to start with. i would pretty much cut out the fenders and run 335's all the way around. that said, it wouldn't be legal for any other form of competetion well, maybe time trials.
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Post by jrod on Jun 19, 2012 14:07:57 GMT -6
I have the same style Mustang, and they are great project cars. One of the easiest cars to work on and they have a great aftermarket. Even with that, they are not easy to make fast autocross cars especially in CP. In all my years on the different mustang forums, I can't say I have found a lot of good setup info. You will find a lot of part reviews though. So setup will be a lot of trial and error especially considering the vast suspension geometry options. So plan accordingly and understand you might have to change things down the road. You might want to think about keeping your modifications simple initially. And don't forget that the most important part of the car to work on is the nut behind the wheel.
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Post by 95blitz on Jun 19, 2012 23:52:44 GMT -6
Thanks guys, Yeah I wish I could run it in a stockish class. But I don't have a 302 or the v6 that came in the car. I already have everything for the 351W it's not the best stuff but it will work. I'm looking at running 315's street tires all the way around to start with. As far as suspension I don't think I can run what I have right now with solid uppers and lowers let me know if I'm wrong or right on that please. The setup of the suspension will be a great learning experience. Oh yeah the nut behind the wheel is only hand tight(at best)....
EDIT done some reading looks like solid uppers and lowers in a no go..
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Post by jrod on Jun 21, 2012 8:47:03 GMT -6
It's ok to start with what you have. The challenge is trying to improve your driving if the car is not properly setup. Obviously the factory setup is a great starting point, but sometimes you don't have that luxury. I am not sure what you have for parts, but definitely get rid of the solid uppers and replace them with factory replacements. You will need the rubber bushings so that the axle can articulate properly without bind. You might be able to get away with the lowers for now but I can't say since I don't know what you have. Poly on both ends is bad though. Consider getting something with at least a heim joint at the axle side if you need to replace them. Also, the Corral's autox forum is a good source to learn the basics of car setup.
On the short list of things to get suspension wise from what I can see:
- Panhard bar - factory uppers - Struts/shocks - Springs - camber plates - rebuild diff -subframe connectors
These will start your foundation, and you can build from there once you have more seat time. I highly recommend Maximum Motorsports for parts. I am planning to bring my black Mustang to the next event (as long as the weather cooperates). You are more than welcome to ride along.
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Post by jessew on Jun 21, 2012 12:02:42 GMT -6
as far as a rear diff rebuild, i'd go ahead and buy an eaton true-trac or torsen and be finished with it. i killed the clutches in mine in less than one season, and know several people who autox mustangs that rebuild the clutch types once a year.... the true trac in mine really helped the feel of the car.
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Post by 95blitz on Jun 23, 2012 21:18:59 GMT -6
So far out of your list I just have CC plates. Everything but the uppers are on my list to get though. I'm going to get the MM torque arm and panhard bar. For now i'm going to run the crap factory rear diff after the clutches are burnt, then I don't know for now....
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Post by 95blitz on Jul 1, 2012 10:43:02 GMT -6
Well motor wise in the last 2 weeks I have installed this stuff. Welded up the oil pan and installed. Installed the timing chain cover, cylinder heads, harmonic balancer, and lower intake. Bought some used underdrive pulleys off of ebay on the cheap.
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Post by 95blitz on Aug 15, 2012 23:02:44 GMT -6
Found my 30lb injectors and installed those with the Aeromotive rails. Mounted the FPR just need to plumb the engine side of the fuel system now. Ordered the MM full length sub frame connectors. Next up is MM's panhard bar setup. Hope to have those installed by the end of next month. Then time for the torque arm and more welding.
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Post by primaris on Aug 16, 2012 0:18:21 GMT -6
So how close are you getting to being done? What are solid uppers and lowers, you were talking suspension?
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Post by 95blitz on Aug 16, 2012 12:13:01 GMT -6
So how close are you getting to being done? What are solid uppers and lowers, you were talking suspension? It still likes a good bit being done. I'm hoping it will be done by the spring. Yes the upper and lower rear control arms, the uppers are spherical on both ends but don't offer much angular movement and will cause binding. The lowers are a solid mount on the axle side and will also cause binding. So it all has to come off.
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Post by primaris on Aug 16, 2012 21:26:25 GMT -6
Spherical bearing are binding? Wouldn't that mean the front end kit is essentially broken?
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Post by 95blitz on Aug 16, 2012 22:03:30 GMT -6
Its the lack of side to side that I think this one design would cause binding. I can't run it with the panhard bar anyway that setup you use either the factory upper arms or a Torque rod setup. I'll but a few links up in a bit to the parts im looking at getting so you can get a better idea.
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Post by primaris on Aug 16, 2012 22:45:11 GMT -6
Well I hope you get it figured out. CP cars are a blast.
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Post by 95blitz on Aug 16, 2012 23:28:56 GMT -6
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