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Post by zintoatree on Jan 22, 2012 6:18:20 GMT -6
I'm about to order tires soon and I can't decide between these two. I know the RS-3 will have more grip in the dry than the Super Sports but the hankooks will cost me $100 more. Are they worth the extra money? Also I know the general rule is to put as much rubber on the ground as physically possible but what would be the difference between 235F/245R vs 245F/275R. The bigger tires would tack on a $100 also and I just want to make sure there would be a big enough increase in grip to justify it. Sorry if this is sort of a no brainer I just cannot decide between the two and sizes.
Here are the prices to give you an idea what I'm talking about.
Hankook RS-3 235F/245R-$740
Hankook RS-3 245F/275R-$878
Michelin Pilot Super Sports 235F/245R-$667
Michelin Pilot Super Sports 245F/275R-$760
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Post by zintoatree on Jan 22, 2012 6:25:58 GMT -6
These will be going on the 370z
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Post by jessew on Jan 22, 2012 8:34:53 GMT -6
i have never run the supersports, but love the hankooks. that being said, they don't last long. i have 8 events and around 2800 miles on mine and they are bald. i am also running 285/35-18's so its $1100 a set every time...
that being said, put as much rubber in the best compound availible that you can afford.
i like running the same size wheels and tires all the way around as i can rotate the tires and it makes my car far more neutral. i understand that probably isn't possible if you are wanting to stay is stock, and your car will definately handle different than mine as mustangs need all the front tire they can get. the 370 is a much better balanced car.
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Post by zintoatree on Jan 22, 2012 11:54:34 GMT -6
I remember talking to you about the square set up. There are two ways I was thinking of doing this. One would be buy another set of the stock wheels and use the four 9" wheels on autocross day. And use the four 8" for daily driving. Or I could run 245 all the way around but I don't know how the car would act with the same size tire on different width wheels.
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Post by jessew on Jan 22, 2012 12:17:55 GMT -6
thats why i bought 2 sets of wheels. the street set has some good mileage tires on them and the race set gets all the changing/beatings. i think your car with a square setup might be really tail happy, especially if its not understeering very much now. if it is understeering a lot, wider front tires will definantly help. that and not braking with the wheel turned. the car would probably be ok with 245's all the way around on different width wheels as long as the wheels are the correct width for those tires. it may handle a little different when you rotate them. i would make sure you kept the pairs together... i like your 2 sets of wheels idea personally.you could get a square set, and if it oversteered too much for your liking, get some smaller front tires and you'd have spare rears  |
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Post by zintoatree on Jan 22, 2012 12:38:51 GMT -6
The auto cross set would look goofy as hell because of the rears offset but I could run 275 all the way around. I'm excited fr the 12th. New rubber, whiteline sway bars, and maybe exhaust.
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Post by cjwsrt6 on Jan 22, 2012 19:11:14 GMT -6
I have the Pilot Super sports on the rear and PS2's on the front of my Srt6 and love them, I never used the Rs3 and wouldnt run them if it was my daily car but if it is somthing your going to drive on and race Id say the Super sport
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Post by zintoatree on Jan 22, 2012 19:18:15 GMT -6
It's not going to be my daily anymore but it will be driven a good bit still. Probably just get the pss!
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Post by bronxbomber252 on Jan 22, 2012 20:29:35 GMT -6
RS3's are the absolute most grippy 140+ tread wear tire available for hot and dry conditions, period. for autocross in the south, they are the best truly street-able tire you can get. THey should be on average about 1-1.5 seconds faster per 60 seconds of autos course. Driving 1000-1500 miles a month, plus 2 autox's per month on and S2000 with a really aggressive alignment got about 4-6 months out of a set. so about 6000 miles and about 10 autos events on a tire eating alignment.
the PSS is not very well suited to autos duty, if you want something a little longer lasting but still very fast on an autos course, I recommend the Dunlop Direzza Star Spec, better in the rain and cool than the RS3, longer lasting too, and almost as fast in the hot/dry, price is slightly above the RS3 and well below the PSS.
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Post by zintoatree on Jan 22, 2012 21:12:46 GMT -6
PSS for me are cheaper than the Hankooks, that's why I was on the fence about the two. I didn't think the RS-3 would last that long might reconsider now.
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Post by jessew on Jan 23, 2012 7:06:57 GMT -6
Yeah, they will probably last a lot longer on a car with less than 520 HP and lighter than 3700 lbs
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Post by zintoatree on Jan 23, 2012 12:09:50 GMT -6
Yay rub it in my face. My weak ass car
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Post by jessew on Jan 23, 2012 13:57:17 GMT -6
I'd rather it be lighter. You'll probably best me with new tires
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Post by zintoatree on Jan 23, 2012 14:09:09 GMT -6
Maybe after a few months getting used to my car and some experience, but even then I doubt it. You put up some really good times. You think I could ride with you one time at the next event, if not I understand you can't have my fat ass slowing you down.
Ok I decided on the RS3 245F/265R.
One more question. What do I need to do to keep them up at autocross. What PSI? and why are people spraying there tires/brakes and should I be?
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Post by josephkelley77 on Jan 23, 2012 18:41:30 GMT -6
I run 255x rs3 all around. All the time didn't have alot of power and only weighed about 2800lbs. They have lasted over 7 months daily driven and auto cross. I have alot more power now n weigh about 3000lbs but they still look decent as I hope to get a year out of them. I have -3° in the front and caster at about 6 with 1/8 toe out. Rear has -2.5° they have held up fair. But they only cost me $520 shipped from discount tires. Wish they had 275 in 17s
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