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Post by bluevo210 on Feb 3, 2012 12:22:01 GMT -6
Hey, guys. Does anyone have any experience with the Nitto NT05?
The tires on my Evo are almost down to the wear bars, and I think they're starting to hydroplane in the rain. The Evo is my rainy-day car.
I was really hoping to put off new tires until I got a job... My current tires have a Treadwear rating of 300, and are starting to hydroplane with about 20,000 miles on them. (My previous tires were Star-Specs, and were bald at about 16,000mi...Or, was it 11,000?) My new tires need to be more durable than the Dunlops.
I read about the NT05 in an article in SportsCar (October 2009). They were comparing Street Touring tires, and the NT05 had a mid-pack time on their test course. Their notes included "Very durable. Could benefit from a softer compound." Durable is good. I have a 3600lb car that can beat the crap out of some tires.
The NT-05 has a treadwear rating of 200, so it should have more traction than my current Nittos, right? If anyone has input on these tires, or suggestions for something in the range of Treadwear 200 to 280, please let me know.
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Post by jessew on Feb 3, 2012 12:42:57 GMT -6
i have some friends that run NT-05's on their vettes and they say they hook up a lot better and handle better than the 555's. i use 555's on the mustang for the street and have about 16,000 miles on the front tires and they still look pretty nice, but like you said, they aren't the best autocross tire. there isn't much tread (void not depth) on the NT-05's though, so i would worry about them in the rain.
Have you considered 2 sets of wheels and tire? i know the intial cost sucks, but it allows for some really sticky street tires for autox and you can keep the the tires that qualify for round, black, hold air and cheap for the street. i would think you could find some cheap rashed take-off wheels for the evo for autox.
the pirrelli p-zero with the 220 treadwear (there are about 5 versions of this tire, this is important) seem decent at autocross (better than the 555) and i've seen go about 20,000 on a camaro.
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Post by DAN on Feb 3, 2012 17:14:47 GMT -6
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH JESSE. The initial investment sucks, but the milage you will get from both sets of tires really increases. the autox set will get at least another event out of them if you dont drive them on the street, and street tires can loose 5 to 10 thousand miles of use in a really bad day at an event. going to a two tire setup now will save you a lot of money.
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Post by primaris on Feb 3, 2012 18:49:53 GMT -6
I've lost count of how many sets of tires I've used up on the Focus. It's somewhere above 10 (not counting race tires). I use 'em till there bald. If I'm hydroplaning I just slow down.  Treadwear link and why it is pretty much bull sh!t. www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=48 |
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Post by bluevo210 on Feb 4, 2012 1:09:45 GMT -6
Have you considered 2 sets of wheels and tire? I probably should have mentioned that I'm unemployed. I was hoping my current tires would last until I got a job. When I have a job, I'll have to move and I don't want the hassle of moving extra wheels and tires. A couple of years ago, I considered having some "off season tires", but since then I've realized there isn't really an off season around here. |
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Post by bronxbomber252 on Feb 4, 2012 13:24:12 GMT -6
off season? do you mean all season, or winter? all season tires will last a lot longer than summer tires and may be cheaper, m,ay be the best option for you until you get a new job...
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Post by josephkelley77 on Feb 5, 2012 17:06:11 GMT -6
If your staying around southeast I would recommend Yokohama s-drive Kuhmo spt or hankook v12 evo k110 they all run about $100 a tire for 245 40 17 and have good life and wet weather characteristics
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Post by bluevo210 on Feb 7, 2012 0:24:08 GMT -6
off season? do you mean all season, or winter? all season tires will last a lot longer than summer tires and may be cheaper, may be the best option for you until you get a new job... I meant "off season" as in a harder compound for the winter months that there wasn't an autocross. I started autocross in NC, and I think most of the clubs there didn't schedule events from November to February. If I had an extra set of rims, that's how often I'm willing to change tires; About twice a year. Any more often than that, and I've defeated the purpose of running in Street Touring. Now that I know about the National Tour event, I've had a moment where I was tempted to get Star-Specs, run at that event, and then let the Evo have a break from autocross. I bet I'd get more than 16,000mi out of the Star-Specs that way. After that, I'd switch to autocrossing my 240SX, which uses much less gas, and is easier on tires. Another idea is to run the 240SX starting at the next event. The Evo's tires might last another 10,000mi that way. That would be the super-cheapskate option. |
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Post by bluevo210 on Feb 7, 2012 0:41:04 GMT -6
If you're staying around the southeast I would recommend Yokohama s-drive Kuhmo spt or hankook v12 evo k110 they all run about $100 a tire for 245 40 17 and have good life and wet weather characteristics I saw the Ventus V12 on tirerack.com, and I was wondering if it was any good. Have you used it? For 245/40-18, the Tire Rack wants $184/tire. Any recommendations as to where to get the V12 for less? If not, it would be pretty convenient for the Tire Rack to ship my tires to the Goodyear place in Destin; I know for sure their alignment rig will work on my car. Actually, that brings up another question: Is there a shop in the area that does decent autocross alignments? I'm willing to drive up to Dothan if I'm convinced it's worthwhile. The shop in Destin could do an alignment on my car, but I'm not sure how good a job they did. I was satisfied with the rear alignment (Zero toe, -1.0* camber), but I wanted more camber at the front. I wanted -1.5* or more, but the guy said he could only get -1.1* before it interfered with the toe. Folks on the Evo forums called 'bullsh!t', and said that was a half-@$$ed alignment. |
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Post by jessew on Feb 7, 2012 8:31:27 GMT -6
Yeah, they just didn't want to change the toe and 1.1 is probably within factory spec. Murry's tire in chipley will if you explain to him how you want it set and say it well be out of factory spec. Take a sheet of paper with the spec wrote down for him.
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Post by bluevo210 on Feb 7, 2012 10:08:14 GMT -6
Yeah, they just didn't want to change the toe and 1.1 is probably within factory spec. Murry's tire in chipley will if you explain to him how you want it set and say it well be out of factory spec. Take a sheet of paper with the spec wrote down for him. Actually, factory spec goes up to -1.5 all around. -1.1 is about in the middle! Chipley isn't too far, so I'll talk to those guys when I get my tires. Thanks! |
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Post by jessew on Feb 7, 2012 13:18:25 GMT -6
yeah, they probably thought though that since 1.1* is in spec and they wouldn't have the change the toe, that they weren't going to do it... less work for them, pissed off customer in you. when you call ask to speak to murry and tell him you are racing the car and want a custom spec alignment.
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Post by josephkelley77 on Feb 8, 2012 19:48:31 GMT -6
There cheaper at discount tire and have free shipping. I was looking at 17s for the price.
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Post by jessew on Feb 9, 2012 8:15:45 GMT -6
yeah, try discounttiredirect.com thats where i order my hankooks. usually about $60 cheaper than tirerack because you don't have to pay shipping.
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Post by amsoildealer on Feb 9, 2012 14:25:30 GMT -6
I can do a custom alignment at my shop if you really wanted one. We've done it for other customers and for my own vehicle. just bring it up to honda of panama city and give us the specs you want it to and i'll even bring you to the back of the shop and you can watch me align it.......but then i have to test drive it  |
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